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  • Lunch@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    If there is one thing you shouldn’t cheap out on imo it’s the storage.

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        10 months ago

        Then just get a pair of hard drives and put them in RAID 1. I use a NAS with a single hand-me-down 5600 RPM HDD and the bandwidth is absolutely fine.

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        10 months ago

        You can have all three of those, but you won’t get great performance. The Samsung QVO SATA drives are a great example. I wouldn’t use those for an OS drive but they’re fantastic for NAS or media use.

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    10 months ago

    Personally I have focused on fast SSD storage and utilized the vast, cheap, slow storage available with mechanical drives for backup.

    At the end of the day, if an SSD fails, you’re effectively just screwed. If a mechanical drive fails, there is some possibility that the data is recoverable. But moreover, mechanical storage is so cheap by volume that you can just have redundant backup and never worry about it, really.

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        10 months ago
        • SLC -> Single-Level Cell, i.e. 1 bit per cell
        • MLC -> Multi-Level Cell, i.e. 2 bits per cell
        • TLC -> Triple-Level Cell, i.e. 3 bits per cell
        • QLC -> Quad-Level Cell, i.e. 4 bits per cell

        The more bits per cell you store, the more dense and therefore cheaper your flash chips can be for a give capacity. The downside is that it is slower and less reliable since you have to be able to write and read exponentially more voltage states per cell, e.g. 2 states for SLC, 4 states for MLC, 8 states for TLC, etc.

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    10 months ago

    WD Green /shrug

    I’ve been using all Red Pros since I first built my nas, but it started with a couple of green 2TB that where in there for like 7 years before being replaced (didn’t die yet)

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      10 months ago

      I had WD Greens in my first NAS (they were HDDs, though). This was ill-advised. Definitely better for power consumption, but they took forever to spin up for access to the point where it seemed like the NAS was always on the fritz.

      Now I swear by WD Red. Much, much better (in my use case).

      (I’m not sure how things pan out in SSD land though. Right now it’s just too pricey for me to consider.)

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        10 months ago

        I was using HDDs, and I believe it may have been a little less of an issue bc I had Unraid configured to keep the drives spun up (I’ve read the spin up is hard on the drive, not so much the time being spun up)

        But I did occasionally have some IOWait issues. Reds plus a NVME cache has resolved all those issues.

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          10 months ago

          My concern (back then) with keeping the greens spun up would be that I’d lose the energy savings potential of them without the benefits of a purpose built NAS drive.

          In my current NAS, I just have a pair of WD Red+. I don’t have a NVME cache or anything but it’s never been an issue given my limited needs.

          I am starting to plan out my next NAS though, as the current on (Synology DS716+) has been running for a long time. I figure I can get a couple more years out of it, but I want to have something in the wings planned just in case. (seriously looking at a switch to TrueNas but grappling with price for HW vs appliance…). My hope is that SSDs drop on price enough to make the leap when the time comes.

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      10 months ago

      Same, we’re ones of dozens I’m sure but I’ve been running a mix of WD greens and Seagate barracudas in a hardware RAID5 array for over a decade. Only had 2 drive failures over the entire time with no data loss. But yeah… would advise against that if possible

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    10 months ago

    Your local network is probably 1Gbit or 2.5Gbits so you’ll be good with SATA as an aux drive, say a Samsung 870 QVO. I’d recommend running a smaller NMVe as your main one.

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      10 months ago

      I have 8 of these in 4tb. They are wonderful and ive not had a single issue

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        10 months ago

        I’d recommend the QVO for storage needs, and I’ve seen 8TB versions go for $400 so I’d say it’s insanely cheap considering it’s still an SSD and saturates the SATA protocol.

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    10 months ago

    Perhaps running a mirror or a stripe array would be more important than selecting drives that don’t fail. Then you can pick whatever that’s not complete garbage. That said, it would likely still be more expensive overall.

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    10 months ago

    Transcend ssd220s (4tb SATA) can be found for really nice prices.
    Even had a thread about this one on Lemmy cuz I wasn’t sure how good it is (it’s great).

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    10 months ago

    Been using Sabrent Rocket SSDs for awhile. Been reliable and fast. They aren’t the cheapest SSDs, but they perform well and don’t break the bank.

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      My only Sabrent Rocket SSD i had started failing within 6 months. Got it in Jan, cut it into pieces and threw it away in June.

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    10 months ago

    A SATA ADATA SU800 died on me after 4 years of use. (Luckily I had a weekly harddrive backup so I lost almost nothing! :D)

    Samsung, WD, Lexar, Kingston generally are known reliable name brands (but Samsung warranty doesn’t work well in Canada). If you watch !bapcsalescanada@lemmy.ca like a hawk (Canada’s PC part sales mirrored from Reddit) you may find the occasional deal that is at or under $50/TB Canadian (roughly 36 US$, 35€)

    E:I noticed it hasn’t posted in a couple days, wonder if it died or got banned

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    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    NAS Network-Attached Storage
    NVMe Non-Volatile Memory Express interface for mass storage
    RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage
    SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
    SSD Solid State Drive mass storage

    5 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 15 acronyms.

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      10 months ago

      ADATA nVme, SATA m.2 and SATA are my go to for cheap upgrades for laptops and have had no problems with them. Even have a few in external USB cases for large capacity, fast, portable storage and they work great.

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      10 months ago

      While it doesn’t see much use (sporadic), my ‘value’ Adata nvme drive has been solid and performing as expected in my gaming laptop; also from 2019.

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        10 months ago

        Running 2x ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro M.2 NVMe, 500Gb for OS and VMs and a 2Tb for games and documents.

        I figured it was worth the gamble on this cheaper brand since everything important is synched/baked up to my server.

        AAANNNDD that server is synched to my old NAS.

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    10 months ago

    I use enterprise drives because they’re cheaper and more reliable.

    Got some 4TB enterprise NVMe for 150 each. They only had 3TB written, basically brand new.

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    10 months ago

    I’ve heard good things about the netac n7000, (not the n7000t!), but I have not bit the bullet yet on buying one