Hi everyone,
As always, every time I look at the AWS Glacier egress fee calculator I get fairly irked at how much they charge. Was wondering if anyone knew of any alternatives for cold storage in the cloud without such egregious charges. I will likely not access it ever because I have another offset backup, but just in case I do, I wouldn’t want to fork over thousands, really.
I don’t know how reliable Scaleway’s service is, and Cloudflare’s R2 doesn’t have a Archive offering. I would be interested in the Azure if anyone can convince me that I won’t go bankrupt trying to retrieve my data from them. I don’t want to go with Google with the recent stuff they have been doing with data on their servers.
Thanks!
I’m pretty happy with Hetzner Storage Box at around 2 euro/month/TB with no bandwidth fees.
Do they offer multi-region storage boxes? Hetzner is definitely a name I can trust (at the moment), I’m interested
Storage box is self-serviced storage on a single server, as far as I’m aware. If you need replication, you need to rent storage at a second location and do it yourself.
I see. Thanks
Two locations in Germany and maybe one in Finland iirc. Check their website to be sure. None outside Europe for now.
I see that. It seems I’d have to set up replication myself, but that seems doable. Thanks
You could ask on lowendspirit.com for other cheap storage. Yeah Storage Box is mostly raw storage with RAID-6 but no automatic replication or backup. The somewhat.more expensive Storage Cloud product is backed up nightly.
Thanks for the link, I’ll take a look
Don’t use them as the only storage maybe. There’s stories about Hetzner flagging accounts for false positives and they basically offer zero recourse. They close everything related to the account and cut all communication.
Oh boy
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Fwiw, AWS offers a one-time egress without charge in response to the EU order to allow people to switch cloud providers.
Once approved, we will provide credits for the data being migrated. We don’t require you to close your account or change your relationship with AWS in any way. You’re welcome to come back at any time. We will, of course, apply additional scrutiny if the same AWS account applies multiple times for free DTO.
So if you’re going to do this for that one time you have to, probably not a big deal.
But if I were you, I’d be prepared to egress, kill the account, and then create a new account.
First: love that that’s a thing, but I find the blog post hilarious:
We believe this choice must include the one to migrate your data to another cloud provider or on-premises. That’s why, starting today, we’re waiving data transfer out to the internet (DTO) charges when you want to move outside of AWS.
and later
We believe in customer choice, including the choice to move your data out of AWS. The waiver on data transfer out to the internet charges also follows the direction set by the European Data Act and is available to all AWS customers around the world and from any AWS Region.
But sure: it’s out of their love for customer choice that they offer this now. The fact that it also fulfills the requirements by the EDA is purely coincidental, they would have done it for sure.
Remember folks: regulation works. Sometimes corporations need the state(s) to force their hand to do the right thing.
TBF it’s nice that they allowed it for everybody. Usually when a company is forced to do something in the EU they only do it in the EU.
Transfer charges are not restore charges - which are required when bringing files out of glacier.
Something to keep in mind.
Does Backblaze work for what you are doing? It been a bit since I’ve price compared them, but I think it was something around 5$ a month per TB?
I’m using BackBlaze B2 already, this is for a backup for B2
Then I wouldn’t worry about it. The point of Glacier is for stuff that you’ll probably never need, but are willing to pay a hefty fee if it comes down to it.
You know b2 has multi region replication now, right?
Two regions of one provider isn’t really a reliable backup. What if the provider goes out of business, hacked, closes your account or has a software bug that affects all of their storage.
I don’t want B2 to be my only backup, but $600-$900 to retrieve data is a bit too much. That’s why I’m looking for alternatives
I would recommend to avoid Scaleway. They simply lost part of my files in the first week. Were very unresponsive and in the end could not recover. Pretty much everything you are hoping to never encounter with a storage provider.
I also had a bad experience where I had a test website under a megabyte in a storage bucket. It was under the free tier and sat there for a few years. Then one month they sent me a bill (it was small, a handful of cents). Contact support saying that this use is under the free tier. They said that data was added then removed from the bucket. I hadn’t logged into the account, no living API keys. They wouldn’t forgive the charge.
Luckily my credit card had expired so they just locked my account.
Oh no, thanks for the comment. I’ll keep that in mind
I looked at storj.io a while back, prices seemed good.
Thanks, their system seems good. I will consider them seriously.
Stork seems like a great choice considering the fact that it’s replicated over several regions by default. I might start using it myself.
I’m considering Storj myself after them being mentioned here a couple of times. Thanks!
They also have egress fees and I find the pricing very intransperent also you cannot delete your account without customer support and the delete function for files dose not work reliable
I went with iDrive e2 https://www.idrive.com/s3-storage-e2/ 5 TB is 150$/year (50% off first year) for S3-compatible storage. My favorite part is that there are no per-request, ingress or egress costs. That cost is all there is.
5 TB for $150 seems awfully high (didn’t click the link). I’m on my first year (and did it before they doubled their first year prices) and I got 50 TB for $500.
1 TB is $15 for the first year.
BuyVM has $24s/yr KVM server that you can attach storage at $5/TB/mn. So 5TB should set you back $325/yr all in. They’ve been around for quite some time — I’ve been client since 2011 — so they’re not likely to disappear anytime soon.
Do they offer multi-region replication of storage? This stuff is fairly important to me and I’ve not exactly heard of BuyVM in the same league for Cloud storage providers like AWS, BackBlaze and Cloudflare
No multi-region unless you roll it yourself. Their offerings are primarily web hosting centric, so you’d need to do the heavy lifting yourself if you want more infra. Also worth noting that they’re definitely not in the same league as the big players, they’re just an old vendor that isn’t likely to disappear on you.
I use idrive e2. When I did the math it’s yearly up front cost works out what deep archive is without an egress fee and it’s quicker. In the fine print there is a fair use policy on downloads but I think it’s 5x the storage amount.
Deep archive storage alone without puts is $24 TB year. idrive is $15 first year $30 subsequent. But it behaves more like s3 standard instant retrieval which is much more expensive.
Small company but have been around a long time now.
Yep, iDrive is the way to go, before they raised their prices I got 50 TB for a year for $500. I moved everything back locally, now I’m just going to use them for off-site backups. You can’t beat $15 for 1 TB for a year.
Wasabi and iDrive E2 are 2 others I know of similar to S3 and B2.
Not for the same resilience as in glacier, it is pretty price effective.
What is?
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