In November 2023, we shared a timeline for the phasing out of Manifest V2 extensions in Chrome. Based on the progress and feedback we...
  • dinckel@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Shit like this is exactly why competition is of utmost importance. The internet was never meant to be single-handedly controlled by a corporation with private interests, and more importantly, private pockets

    • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
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      5 months ago

      If we don’t see a somewhat significant rise in Firefox usage increases after this, then I fear that battle is already lost. People can complain a lot but doing something as easy as switching browsers seems to be the hardest thing for most of them.

      • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 months ago

        You Grandma and her Chromebook don’t care though. The numbers aren’t in our favor, but Mozilla absolutely dominating in the features and privacy arenas is.

      • tabular@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 months ago

        Even if Firefox were to win it’s still a bleak future because the ridiculously complexity and scope of browsers prevents new ones being made. Without the possibility of newcomers either the war never ends or there is one victor. We should start to abandon browsers in favor of apps that focus on each part of the browser (e.g. why does a browser need to render video to the screen when the user already has an app for that).

        “Destroying an empire to win a war is no victory, and ending a battle to save an empire is no defeat.”- Kahless

        • akilou@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          5 months ago

          Fuck that. I’m not switching between apps for every god damn function my browser does. I intentionally decline to install apps when I can just use the browser.

            • AWildMimicAppears@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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              5 months ago
              • no unified password management (or even worse: everything gets just attached to your google/ios account - i hate apps that do not give me the option to keep stuff separate)
              • no history functions (esp. over multiple devices)
              • single apps getting bought out by marketing corpos or bad actors without getting notified
              • data sniffing apps are harder to reign in than my sandboxed browser tabs.
              • NO ADBLOCKING AVAILABLE IN APPS

              I’m sure there are a lot more reasons, that’s just what came into my mind

              • tabular@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                5 months ago

                Apps being created seperatly doesn’t mean they can’t interact with each other, so I don’t see those concerns as a problem. Is there anything fundamentally preventing the creation of new apps to do tasks currently exclusive to browsers?

                Isn’t the possibility of single apps getting bought out an argument against having all your eggs in one basket? 🙃

                • AWildMimicAppears@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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                  5 months ago

                  i think i would get notified in some way if the Mozilla Foundation changes ownership, and since it’s open source that is not much of an argument. open source is getting more common the last few years, but it’s definitely not common

                  sure, it doesn’t mean they can’t. everyone making their own app also means that they don’t per default.

                  and you didn’t touch the point regarding NO ADBLOCKING IN APPS while the whole debate here is because alphabet doesn’t want effective adblocking in their browser.

      • Toes♀@ani.socialEnglish
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        5 months ago

        In my experience people have a poor understanding of the software they use, it just needs to continue working as it always has.

  • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Manifest V2 phase out is a big deal, as Google is pushing towards Manifest 3 only. Google’s version of Manifest 3 is hobbled by removing WebRequest blocking which breaks privacy and ad blocking tools - an obvious benefit to Google as an Ad and data harvesting company.

    Firefox is implementing Manifest 3 with WebRequest blocking, as well as supporting Google’s hobbled version declarativeNetRequest to allow compatibility with chrome extensions.

  • the_doktor@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Anyone still using Chromium or any of its derivatives (including Chrome) just needs to suck it up and admit it’s the loser here. Use a Firefox derivative, it’s just all around better in every single way.