Apologies if this post ain’t right for this community! I’m admittedly not interested in self-hosting myself, but I’ve a close buddy who’s wanting to get back to streaming, but rightfully hates Amazon. He’s wanting to self-host with Owncast to do video streaming with his pals, but lives in a very small flat with very little free space - hence the request for a laptop.

Ideally he’s needing something great for video encoding, and Linux friendly to boot. No Windows. Mate’s got a budget of ~£1,000.

If there’s a better community for this lemme know!

  • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Is he planning to also use the laptop as a laptop?

    If not, there are small form factor PCs (especially if you’re willing to buy used business stuff) that don’t take up a lot of space that can be good options. Laptops have some features that are kind of nice on a server as well (the battery becomes a backup against power outages and you don’t need to remote access or plug stuff in to use it because it has a built in display and keyboard), but I don’t think they’re so nice that it’s usually worth buying a laptop just for that purpose. It’s more a reason that repurposing an old one makes sense. If you’re willing to pay the premium a new laptop adds, you can get some pretty low profile units.

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      3 months ago

      He’s just using it for streaming, figured it having a built in screen would help significantly with the limited space in his flat.

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    3 months ago

    with a $1000 budget they might want to consider building a computer as desktops usually provide better performance/per cost rather than buying a $1000 laptop

    • desktop pcs can also be small if a small form-factor like ITX or mini-ITX is chosen (although mini-ITX can be pricey)

    building is incredibly easy as there’s a plethora of tutorial vids online and you’re less likely to get screwed over by an Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) or retailer

    • diy vs. buying a pre-built

    the fediverse here also has an active community for support !buildapc@lemmy.world

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      3 months ago

      Desktops usually don’t have a focus on efficiency, which is important in a server.

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        3 months ago

        that is true but for beginners with a $1000 budget who ask about buying laptops to host services

        • I’d usually steer towards pc building as buying a laptop would usually be the worst of all options (which brings me great pain for my customers)
          • and building an actual server can be costly unless you’re buying easily accessible second -hand/used components

        one thing I forgot to mention is that it also heavily depends on an individual’s use cases, restrictions, and preferences

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    3 months ago

    Go on Kijiji or whatever and look for a relatively recent used one with an Intel processor. It’ll be a lot cheaper, and you don’t need fancy hardware or features since you’ll not be using it as a laptop.

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    3 months ago

    Ideally he’s needing something great for video encoding, and Linux friendly to boot.

    What’s the plan here, using the laptop for gaming and streaming, or only using the laptop as the streaming machine?

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    3 months ago

    Is he doing transcoding on the hardware itself?

    If so, despite their current shits-on-fire stuff, it’s really hard to beat Intel QSV.

    In any case, do not rely on AMD’s VCE if you care at all about quality, because right now it’s still awful.

    QSV, nvenc, or do it on the CPU with x264/265.

    (Not a specific laptop recommendation, but just a AMD-still-kinda-has-a-deficiency-here post.)