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There already is federation of deletion. It’s not even something that needs to be implemented.

I have less of a defeatist attitude about privacy. Same way I don’t think absitence is the only true way of contraconception. Privacy, yes, even if public spaces is possible. It’s not easy, it won’t just happen, but it is achievable. Needs a lot of work from a lot of people, but it is doable.

I don’t expect you to change your mind on that.

Yes, and my point is, that the person running an instance has to comply with the gdpr if they are within the EU.

It doesn’t matter if data has already been propagated somewhere else. On that instance, data needs to be able to be fully deleted. For the matter of deletion, it is irrelevant where the data might have been pushed or mirrrored to, that is a seperate issue, which still needs to be dealt with. But one cannot argue that deleting is pointless or needn’t be implemented, just because “public” data is already mirrored elsewhere. The people running “elsewhere” have their own compliance to deal with.

Reddit still has to ensure what is deleted on their end, is actually deleted (which they don’t, as we saw during the whole protest thing with delted comments being restored)

The fact that archive websites exist doesn’t change that. A request under gdpr to such a site would have to result in deletion as well.

Sure someone who doesn’t host or specifically target EU citizens can ignore it at their leisure, but I doubt every Lemmy instance is hosted somewhere in non EU areas.

You are slightly wrong. The GDPR applies to everyone dealing with personal data on the regular, which you always have to assume with open text boxes. There have been plenty rulings already imposing fines on individual, private citizens for their misconduct in violation of the gdpr.

While Lemmy as a system might be exempt, anyone running Lemmy for sure isn’t, as long as it regularly processes data of EU citizens, which it does.

As for the devs, the gdpr does require privacy by design. One could argue the Devs themselves aren’t running it at all, so their software doesn’t have to adhere to it, but individual instance hosts could still be hit with fines for running it as is.

I’m one of the new folk around here as well and I can fully understand that kind of feeling once it feels like the flood gates have opened and your small community ain’t so small no more and people bring different vibes than what you’re used to / what you enjoy.

Genuinely, I’m sorry, it sucks.

And you feel this attitude is correct in engaging with people new to the fediverse?

Hope you’re okay.