His point is there is no one protocol for the social web. The (open) social web is built on a pluriverse of protocols, like rss, email, irc, matrix, activitypub, atproto…
One thing that seems to go unappreciated in the comments is the simplicity of this interop proposal: It is essentially about enabling quote-posting of link-aggregator(Groups) posts.
Bluesky + Frontpage will work this way, and I believe it’ll work exceedingly well. If the ap-net corner of the fediverse isn’t interested in this kind of interop, fair enough. To me however the promise of seamless interop between my social apps was what brought me to the fediverse, so that’s the version of the fediverse I will pursue.
Yeah I get that. What ‘works’ means in the context of local-first is flexible though. This might provide a useful framing: https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2023/offline-is-online-with-extreme-latency/
In any case, you’re definitely right to focus on your specific use case first without trying to fit it into any specific paradigm. I’m excited to follow Habitat’s progress!
This sounds great!
Are you familiar with the local-first tenets? Seems like a natural fit for the local nature of your app:
Lua in pure Rust: https://github.com/kyren/piccolo
This is certainly not spam but rather a blog response, a time honored practice as old as blogging itself.
OP’s article links to the source article (albeit via its fedipost rather than its blog post; maybe best to link both) and contributes to the online discourse with a long form reply, detailing a possible solution.
Mischaracterizing such a clearly well-intentioned contribution as “blog spam” is disingenuous.
edit: thanks for retracting your comment. I hope my retort won’t dissuade you from continuing to engage in this community :)
Thank you!
Suddenly every comic post I’ve seen has source links included now!
Maybe it was already a more common practice than I realized, but it sure looks like the fediverse hivemind took my simple bit of feedback to heart and promptly began acting accordingly. I love it here 🥰
What you want is Group-to-Group Following, which obviates the need for most cross-posting altogether.
https://blog.erlend.sh/transitioning-r-rust-to-the-threadiverse
https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-d36d-sharing-content-across-federated-forums/3366
Something a bit similar to what lemmit is already doing, but more powerful with your addition of comments: read-only, best-of archives of really old content from popular subs.
10-5 year old askreddit posts for instance would be interesting blasts from the past to read today. Isn’t there already a ‘best of Reddit’ convention on Reddit itself that resurfaces such content from time to time?
Sounds like the sort of thing Cory Doctorow would write.
Most of the people who organize on SocialHub use this Matrix space to discuss fediverse development:
https://matrix.to/#/%23fediverse-developer-network:matrix.org
Maybe we could get everyone in here instead? They’re eager to decentralize the ownership of the org, so representatives from the Lemmy community would be very welcome to step into leadership roles.
One solution at a time I guess :)
But if your emacs community is in favor of the comments replication approach then that’d be a good testbed that might lead to even better approaches deemed acceptable elsewhere.
I think something like this can work, if you bring humans fully into the loop. Posts should be made by people, so that someone’s responsible for the thread that gets made.
What about a ‘repost queue’ of Reddit that Lemmy users can sign up for? Having signed up to this queue, e.g. for /r/rust, I’d be presented with a list of the posts on /r/rust that do not yet exist on .dev/c/rust. Every hour or so I could opt to do a repost to Lemmy, from my own account.
In other words you’re just facilitating a manual action that’s already taking place.
Yep. It’s Mastodon-compatible. Currently it’s UI-less (backend-only) like GoToSocial.
Heh sure! Maybe I can get away with a slightly longer shorthand, like APub.
edit: Hey look at that, we can edit post titles in Lemmy ✨
Yep, there’s a clear avenue here. Discourse (where I no longer work, so I shouldn’t really have that staff title any longer) is also implementing ActivityPub, so the Rust forum will actually be able to subscribe to this hypothetical /rust community as well. We just have to give them a good enough reason to do so, by achieving a modicum of unification through this group-follow proposal.
Then it’ll be up to the Rust team to decide which particular /rust community on the fediverse they will hook up the official forum to as their trusted gateway into the larger network.
Thanks for the tip! I’ll reach out to them.
Appreciate the review! I’ve forwarded it to the dev :)