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  • My teams new hire project manager was even more advanced. When they found out we were working on 5-10 projects at once with no PM, they quit.

    We had 3 PMs when I started here, and have been down to 0-1 for 6 months. That 0-1 runs a whole unrelated team, but is technical still a PM.

    Dysfunction is fun. The plus side? No one asks me for estimates.



  • It’s not a tradition, it’s the correct nomenclature. The article I posted isn’t talking about history, it’s talking about how rate/rank works in the Navy.

    Your link has to do with ratings, I.e. jobs. That is a distinct thing from rate, i.e paygrade. It refers to enlisted by ratings and paygrade, never rank.

    As to military ID, they use a generic format that has “rank” and “grade” listed. This format is used for all US armed forces, enlisted and officers, and as such is a generic catch all since all other branches of the military use rank for enlisted. For uniformity sake, the card omits the Navy’s odd quirk.


  • Youre mistaken. A “rate” is where you are on the E1 - E9 paygrade scale. A “rating” is your assigned job, what you get after A school. A Fireman has a rate of E-1/3. He does not have a rating because he hasn’t been to A school. You can also “strike” for a rating by testing into it, but thats rarer.

    There is more history about this confusing system here Note that this is from a .mil site specifically about Navy history. The article is from 2019.

    The United States Navy’s enlisted rank and rate system is unique among the armed services. The first point of divergence is the term “rate,” used in the Navy rather than the more-familiar term “rank,” which is reserved for naval officers and warrant officers. The second unique aspect of Navy enlisted rates is the inextricable linkage of rates, which represent a Sailor’s pay grade, and ratings, which denote an occupational specialty. For example, where a notional Sergeant Smith may have a military occupational specialty (MOS) of infantryman in the Army, he would simply be designated Sergeant Smith, both in conversation and on official documents. A Sailor of equivalent rank/rate with a rating of boatswain’s mate would be Boatswain’s Mate Second Class Jones. Thus, the Navy combines rates and ratings in Sailors’ titles.

    To complicate matters further, the Navy considers Sailors in the E-1 to E-3 pay grades “nonrated,” meaning they do not yet hold a rating.