• scarabic@lemmy.world
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      2 hours ago

      Interesting concept. Kind of like “is it really heaven if people you didn’t like while you were alive are also there?”

      Utopia can never be utopia for everyone because some people will want hierarchy and superiority over others. So with this requirement, utopia cannot exist. Maybe that’s why it doesn’t :D

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      22 hours ago

      Utopia means “no place” so all utopias, by definition are imaginary.,

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          14 hours ago

          This the etymology yes.

          “But it now usually describes an ideal society that is considered better than contemporary society.”

          So, as you can see we’re not in ancient greece, are we? “Buzz lightyear smug squint”

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            They are essentially saying that they would be happy in a place that does not exist. Doesn’t exclude the possibility that happiness could still be found in a place that does.

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      17 hours ago

      The handful I’ve encountered up-close-and-personal are legitimately miserable. Nice trips, sure. Nice stuff. But the opposite of “joyful” in a very obvious way.

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    If you’re thinking of American right-wingers and fascists who are currently celebrating Trump’s victory, I must say their view of the world is so dark, negative and pessimistic, that nobody could really describe it as utopia-like. This is a brief respite for them, nothing more.

    If you’re thinking more abstractly, or of some very specific incredibly lucky people, then I guess it could be so.