• hark@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Pyramid schemes don’t have to be zero-sum. All you need are assholes at the top trying to suck up as many resources as they can. Imagine the shape that makes.

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      1 year ago

      A hexagon!

      They’re zero sum because money is being exchanged, but the person losing money isn’t getting anything in return for the exchange. Someone is just stealing from someone else (one person loses, anotber gains). No matter how many people are added to the scheme the mechanics remain the same.

      An economy, be it a capitalist or communist one, involves the exchange of money but in exchange for goods and services. Both parties of the transaction gain from it.

      Now, it could be argued that the wrong people gain the most from capitalism. That’s another argument. But the system isn’t zero sum, the way a ponzi scheme or a pyramid scheme is.

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        1 year ago

        To all your guys huffing and puffing, I’m not passing moral judgment (here) about communism or capitalism. I’m just saying that any economic system involving trade is not zero sum the way a Ponzi-scheme is.

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        1 year ago

        Except people are getting fewer goods and services while paying more money. For some, they’re already at starvation wages even when working full-time and they have to dip deeply into credit just to survive.