Sadly, in this modern era the fabric of society & the ties that bind us all are weaker than they’ve ever been imo-

Perhaps if we were all a bit more civil and selfless and more self sufficient I could see communities coming together to survive a situation like this relatively unscathed, however in this age where everyone’s at everyone else’s throats over tweets from years ago and trying to ruin people’s lives over benign opinions via getting them fired, swatted or what have you- my faith in such a scenario that lacks massive upheaval and violent looting, murder and worse… is near 0.

https://youtu.be/oHHSSJDJ4oo?t=343 This is the video I was remembering, it has sources in the description if you want further reading- and it says 4-10 years, which is insane to think about.

of course? I don’t see how attacking me correlates to the original question though.

I actually grew up homeless for quite a few years, and there were plenty of hungry nights & if it wasn’t due to living in a 1st world nation I probably wouldn’t be here now. It’s not exactly the same but at least I know a similar struggle.

Sounds useful, albeit probably spyware ridden but what isnt these days eh?

I might look into using that for at least google’s services.

Well, to be honest I had no idea that cheap phones like that existed.

Besides costs though the main reason I dont decide to get a phone is just due to all the data collection they do, plus nearly every service and government/housing/job related thing connected to me uses the family phone #, switching them over would take hours if not days of calling, settings editing or paperwork to do.

I already pay for my family’s house, food and utilities so I don’t really see why its an issue to borrow the family’s # every now and then.

Depends on what standard of living you desire and where you are- If you want to live as a hobo then as long as you survive your basic biological needs you could go indefinitely without internet, the same is true of any outsdoorsman who lives in a remote area where they can survive just based on their ability to hunt and collect water.

Eh, I assure you the burden of buying a brand new 500~1000$ phone and then paying a monthly bill to provide it with service would be a far far greater burden then allowing me to use their phone to make important calls once a week if not less, and letting me use it to sign up to a site/video game maybe a couple times a year.

You are correct that there are many devices and plenty of examples of infrastructure that is hardened against such things- but it’s just plain wrong to assume it wont be a major problem- Multiple studies have found the damage caused by a solar storm equivalent to the 1859 example would cause trillions of dollars of damage and a lot infrastructure would be down across most of the 1st world for at least months if not years.

It would probably also trigger a lot of violent outbursts from populations around the world, probably a lot of mostly peaceful and fiery looting, riots etc.

I mean, if all the infrastructure is fried, your phone surviving wont do much besides allow you to have a disconnected phone until the battery dies.

I dont own a cellphone and get by through borrowing family member’s phones or asking strangers if I can make a call if I’m out on my own, it usually works out fairly well.

However whenever I run into online services that require a phone to make an account or whatever I usually get screwed- so I usually just use a family member’s phone # if I know they’ll never use the site or whatever or utilize a 10 minute/fake phone # creation site if I dont care about the site or service I’m signing up for.

Every site on the internet besides ultra niche ones have bots nowadays- infact recent studies have found that the amount of bots on the internet are starting to equal and will soon surpass actual human users.

More like flood of bots across the internet.