Neither of the two points you’ve made address what I said. Maybe you misunderstood. By “MySpaced” I mean “become irrelevant”.

Being open source won’t prevent this, sadly. 4 years is still young, but if a critical mass shifts back to Reddit then Lemmy will be considered a failure.

It’s time for Lemmy devs to really think about the pain points and how to address them.

It’s clear that federation isn’t working as intended. Because of that, moderation is too difficult. Defederation has been a major drama for Lemmy, which is only being made more likely given these complaints have not been addressed.

Then there’s the curse of choice that makes gaining non-tech users a lost cause. It is leading to extreme fragmentation which makes people drift back to their busier platforms.

These issues need to be addressed or Lemmy will be MySpaced within a year.

Yes, agreed. A single point of entry, supported by multiple instances. If the accounts are distributed across them based on availability and capacity, it would immediately fix two of the biggest issues Lemmy faces.

Sites like reddit, Instagram, and twitter make the cognitive effort to go from signing up to using the app as low as possible. The users’ experience is considered from before they even have an account. They make sure you don’t ever see a blank page or feel like you’re battling the app to find content.

Lemmy actively puts roadblocks in the way. Server choices, the hoops you need to jump though for server memberships, and highly fragmented communities all but ensure that people will face issues when signing up.

Sadly, a lot of users here feel that because they had to overcome them, so should everyone else. Until that changes then the self-defeating cycle will continue.

New languages deal with challenges the old languages faced differently, with hindsight of how those languages dealt with those challenges and how they could have done things better.

We don’t even have a universal language for communication. That may not be a bad thing, either. There’s a theory that the language you speak changes the way you perceive the world - I believe that’s true with programming as well. If we only had Java, we’d only get Java-style solutions.

I don’t see why having chronological feeds can’t be paired with some more generic sorting or filtering systems. Nobody would be obligated to use either, you could just pick the one you want.

I get people want to see specifically what they subscribe to, and nothing else (looking at you, facebook). But I don’t see why people hate the idea of others being able to discover new content. Reddit had default subs for a long time, Twitter has trending topics, Mastodon could really do with something similar to help noobs get on-boarded.

And no - there’s no way I’m wading through the shit fountain that is Mastodon’s all posts tab on the off chance I find one interesting post. If you don’t already have interesting follows then it feels like there’s no point.

It depends where you go, surely?

I’ve met a fair number of numpties on Reddit but I’ve never had anyone tell me neckbeards are an oppressed group until I came to Lemmy 😂

Jokes aside, it’s easy to avoid toxic people on here since they usually announce themselves loudly. It’s easy to block users, communities, or even servers if you don’t want to see something.

Well firstly, why do you care about being banned if you’re leaving Reddit?

Come to terms with Reddit not dying overnight. Lemmy isn’t going to vanish if people don’t move over straight away. Reddit will eventually succumb to the 1000s of tiny self-inflicted cuts. Post content that isn’t on Reddit and people will have a motivation to stay here.

I don’t blame you. You cant be solely responsible for the communities you used to be a part of, nor should you be expected to. I think Reddit is still gonna be the home hub for a lot of communities.

IMO another issue with Lemmy is fragmentation of communities. It’s not really much fun to join a group and be one of 4 followers and a bot poster. I’d post more, but I still feel like I’m finding my way around the platform. Moderation sounds like a joyless endevour, so props to those who step up!

Exactly. I didn’t want to say it, but the comments I keep seeing saying the barrier for entry is good get me down. It’s not just incompetence that gets filtered out when you refuse to adapt.

People are really married to this initial idea of what Lemmy is and don’t seem to want to let it evolve. Of all the existential threats to Lemmy, fading into irrelevance is probably the most likely.

I think so. I think younger users trust official branded apps a lot more so actually see the Reddit app as safer. Despite how easy tech people think lemmy and mastodon are, picking a server just isn’t a feature to non-tech people - it’s an obstacle to getting started.

The lack of content is a problem, but the lack of community feeling is the actual offputting part. Having bots repost things from Reddit kills the organic feeling of interacting with another user.

I’ll probably be flamed but I do think having such a homogeneous userbase is negative. It means you don’t get a wide array of experiences and viewpoints. People bang on about echo chambers online, but if you are in a club full of old white guys then you’re in one!

I’d like think we can make these platforms as welcoming for everyone of all backgrounds, genders, etc, but there’s just some things we can’t understand without having those viewpoints being represented.